If you ever ask Thesis of Knuckleheads Cali/Them Team about his experiences at IBE 2008, be ready to cover the ears of any nearby children.

“Oh my god. It was the best fucking jam ever. In the world,” he says. He’s blurting into the phone at an airport in Utah waiting for a flight to Texas for a jam.

“It is! Dude! I’m not bullshitting, man,” he continues. “Notorious was at the perfect place, obviously. It was amazing. I’ve never seen anything like it.”

But uh, what exactly about it was amazing?

“Honestly? The no judges,” the 17-year-old b-boy sensation says. “It’s hype because everyone is just going off. It’s ridiculous. It’s amazing that Tyrone and them and Mario actually got the whole city, and the mayor actually gave them whole city for that event. And we took advantage of it.”

When Thesis says he took advantage of it, he’s not just talking about the b-boying or the coffee shops (though he does crack a joke about it).

He says it’s the whole experience of the jam, from the atmosphere to the attitudes.

“It’s crazy how the people are just so nice out there and hella respectful,” he gushes. “And every other time I’ve been to Europe, I’ve always been getting into some drama — other than Holland.”

Oh, yeah, and Thesis digs the architecture. Wait, what?

“The architecture — every building is different color, and it’s fuckin’ tight,” he says.

Of course, it doesn’t hurt that he was feeling the b-boying and hip-hop there as well.

“In Holland, I love the way they dance. They’re way more funky. They use the music a lot more,” he says. “If you’re a b-boy and you do moves and shit and not moving to the music, there’s no reason for you going out there. You should feel every beat, every drum, every horn, every scratch — every little thing. I see that in Holland in the b-boy scene, and I respect that a lot.”

It’s a positive b-boy vibe that Thesis says is fueled in part by the other hip-hop events taking place along with the battles and cyphers.

“If you can bring all kinds of different hip-hop culture into one area, that’s what’s up,” he says. “If you didn’t have all different styles in that one event, it wouldn’t be IBE. It would just be a regular b-boy event.”

At this point, it’s starting to seem that Thesis may not ever want to come back from Holland if he attends IBE this year — as he is scheduled to help represent the United States in one of the event’s major battles.

“I love it,” he says. “It’s hella old, but it’s hella my kinda lifestyle.”

He’s winding down a bit, but as expected, he deploys another flurry of F-bombs when he’s asked what he’s looking forward to most at the event this year.

“Same as last year, but just more hype,” he says. “I already see teams, and that’ll be fucking crazy, man. I’m not expecting certain things. I know it’s gonna be fucking dope. And it’s its gonna be fresh.”